Dr Lugo and Chief attempt to answer the age-old question, "What do you do when ya gotta do what ya gotta do?" They discuss various aspects of leadership, including the importance of self-reflection, addressing performance issues promptly, and building trust within teams. They share personal experiences and anecdotes to illustrate the consequences of inaction and the need for effective communication and decision-making in leadership roles. The conversation concludes with an announcement of their planned hiatus for July, emphasizing the importance of resilience and safety, and expressing gratitude for their opportunities to help others.